Saturday, June 17, 2006

Do Angels Have Wangs?

Now this debate has been brought up by my good friend BDG (Brendan DeGlandvile) on numerous occasions over the last couple of weeks.

BDG's Arguement For:

Firstly I just wanna say it is an honour and privelege to contribute to Clares blog, Ive been assured that this will never happen again, so after reading this NO DOUBT youre gonna want more from this articulate writer, so check out my blog notoriousbdg.blogspot.com
Now to the topic at hand, Angels and their wangs or lack thereof. Most have read Genesis and if you have, I will assume all have read Genesis 6. This chapter kicks off talking bout how man was increasing in number on earth etc and then it mentions in verse 2 'the Sons of God saw that the Daughters of Men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose'. Now I was stumped by this, what do they mean by the Sons of God and Daughters of Men? Then in verse 4 goes on to say 'The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown' (both verses NIV)
After readin this i was mad confused, I gotta be honest with everyone I thought to myself, did God give angels a twig and 2 berries and if so, why? Interesting thought huh?....I took the question to a number of people, "Do angels have wangs?" no one could really prove to me that they did or did not. Clare has voiced her opinion and is on the Negative that is Angels could not, get it on like Marvin. Due to Clare' s stance I have jumped on the Wang Team just for the sake of arguing.
Now I did a little reading the other night after Clare said she was studying the Book of Job, I decided to delve into this book myself. I didnt get very far at all Job 1:6 NIV 'One day the angels [a] came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan [b] also came with them.' Now that little [a] after the angels for some reason was intriguing I read the footnotes apparently in Hebrew means the Sons of God, according to a reliable source that Hebrew word is Benihaelohim. Just to be safe I thought I pick an alternative version which was a NKJV which actually reads 'Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan[b] also came among them' Job 2:1 mentions the sons of God and also Job 38:7 both refering to Angels.
So we look back at Genesis 6:4 and see Angels DID get their groove on and thus had WANGS!! Back in the day at the very least. yes very debateable.
If anyone out there can shed some light with substantial evidence on this exceptionally pointless but hella interesting topic holla back.
peace
(To have BDG contribute to your blog contact him bdg22@iinet.net.au)


Clare's Arguement Against:
Well, that is a very interesting point there BD.. what if 'Son of God' means an angel? I have a few more things that could be a Son of God:
- Jesus (who had the family jewels)
- A God-fearer, or someone who lives righteously before God (who had the meat and two veg)
- An Israelite (who also had a package)

So let's not just restrict that particular term to angels. Another way to argue against would be to have a look at the way to read the Old Testament . Do you just take it face value and assume it to be literally correct in every little detail?

Good on you if you do! I find it difficult to reconcile the contradictions that take place when you do that. For example, if Genesis is meant to be solid and taken literally, why are there two different creation accounts that contradict the order of creation? If you want to read it in this way then you might have to believe that angels have a package.

The theory I find most probable is that this particular passage is borrowed from a popular Babylonian myth around at the time. In both the Gilgamesh Epic (Babylonian Literature) and the Genesis story, the story of the Nephilim preclude the story of the flood. In the G.Epic the cause of the flood is a semi-divine race that challenges the power of the Gods - and the fact that human beings are too noisy. The Bible twists this and points to the true cause of God's judgement - man's sin.. see Genesis 6:5

If you're wondering why the Bible needs to borrow other culture's stories to tell us about God then just think of it like "riverview at the movies".. If the Israelites were in exile in Babylon, being influenced away from God by myths and Babylonian legend, then the writer is very clever to twist familiar stories to show what the True God is like...

My conclusion is.. angels don't have wangs.. but the Nephilim might have, if they existed outside of Babylonian myth!

3 Comments:

Blogger annettetherocker said...

lol...that's all I have to say.

12:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well it also says in the bible that some of us have entertained angels without even realising it - so surely, if they had wangs, we woulda seen them and then realised they were angels - yeah? ;)

5:10 PM

 
Blogger Clare said...

Beedy.. your arguement was based upon the term 'son/s of God' now..... i have dismantled your arguement.. please sit down :P

11:31 AM

 

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